Track day brakes

[Spendyrx]

Alright gang, next year I'm gonna start getting some new parts on monty ready for some track days! Atm I think the plan is to stay on twins, get him mapped and maybe do some minor upgrades like losing the ra adapter and going full premix, look into repairing my teins and popping them on and also changing the brakes!

So basically all I want to do is change the pads if I can get away with it!
After him being mapped I'm guessing he's only gonna be around 300bhp with my mods.

Can people who do regular track days give me advice on what to put in? Can I get away with stock brakes? Or I was thinking maybe ebc red or yellow stuff brakes? Or are you now sitting behind your screens chuckling at a noob

Sorry it's so long winded lol.

 

[MightyCondor]

You'll get different answers from different people. Especially on pad choices. In my experience the stock brakes with decent pads will be enough at most tracks.

I've done 4 track days in the FD, all with DS2500 pads. Blyton Park was the only one that I felt my brakes were inadequate at as they seemed to fade on me quickly there. I did end up with brake judder on 2 of the others, but other than being a minor annoyance it didn't affect braking performance.

 

[fischer]

DS2500 are a decent upgrade along with something like Tarox Discs, they have served me well on a couple of cars, many run
more upgraded pads and discs than these but they are enough to have some safe fun on track unless you are really on it
which I am not.

 

[Spendyrx]

Haha well that's the thing, it's pointless me going mental on buying brakes straight away as I'll be a pile of shet on track at first! I got over taken by a k reg standard civic on my first track session

 

[GAVBEY]

Stock size brakes are ok for trackdays at 300bhp imo. As above DS2500 are pretty shit hot. Also some decent fluid makes the world of diffrence. id recomend motoul 600+ at the end of the day the brakes are going to get pretty fooking hammered. Heres my stock brakes at 570bhp 5 mins onto track, slowing down for the hairpin, In the rain in February 2016

If you have good brake fluid you wont get brake fade... but your pads will melt and bend haha

 

[jdmr_neil]

I use stoptech. Discs, pads, lines also decent fluid. As long as your calipers are working correctly and move freely, which many don't then its fine for intermediate trackdays. I will continue with this set up for now. Whole shebang costs around £500 with replacement front pads at £60 a pop. I have found the pads equal to my DS2500 and possibly a little better bite.

This is still suitable but albeit only just, for around 3-4 hot laps. I can feel the limits to my standard brakes when really stomping on them from 100+ but they are still stopping and not cooking. As i get faster i will look into a bbk but right now I'm happy still.

 

[rotors7]

Being a trucker you could always 'borrow' a magnetic retarder and with a bit of manipulation I dare say it would slot in on the prop shaft just behind the seats !!
It would have some serious stopping power......
Come to think about it why isn't there a four wheel magnetic retarder system ?
Or am I being stupid as I normally am

 

[Spendyrx]

I use stoptech. Discs, pads, lines also decent fluid. As long as your calipers are working correctly and move freely, which many don't then its fine for intermediate trackdays. I will continue with this set up for now. Whole shebang costs around £500 with replacement front pads at £60 a pop. I have found the pads equal to my DS2500 and possibly a little better bite.

This is still suitable but albeit only just, for around 3-4 hot laps. I can feel the limits to my standard brakes when really stomping on them from 100+ but they are still stopping and not cooking. As i get faster i will look into a bbk but right now I'm happy still.

You've made a good point there neil, I usually leave my handbrake down as anything more than a day with it up locks the rear driver side wheel!
Maybe I'll rebuild the rear calipers and try my stock pads for a few track days at first and then see from there how I feel, cheers for the advice gang well other than jeff and his silly ideas, next he'll be telling me to just stick the turbo from the truck on there sorry jeff

 

[4packet]

I won't bore everyone again with my pessimistic ramblings, but you probably would be OK with DS2500's on track if not that confident. Definitely make sure you've got good, fresh fluid prior to any event. Motul RBF/Gulf RF1000 are the affordable options after the Castrol SRF/Endless fluid.

Only other thing worth adding is the importance of bedding in pads to the disc. It's a lot more of a science than just making sure the pad is in full contact. Normal/slow road driving can reverse the process, so you may have to repeat the bedding in procedure prior to the trackday. Juddering is normally a symptom of uneven pad deposition (rather than warped discs) and once allowed to happen is very difficult to resolve. Stoptech have got some useful info on this.

http://www.stoptech.com/technical-s...ions-and-procedures/stock-brake-system-bed-in